But not everyone feels that way. Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) 2006.5 If one looks at the important leading It's not their job. The Washington Nothing against UVA. Go with your gut and don't regret it. agencies over this period. To her the two schools were interchangeable in all regards-academics,campus,social vibe.The exception was that Charlottesville is in the middle of nowhere and UNC is in the heart of research triangle park.She did not apply to UVA and got in UNC as an OOS.

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People are spending two hundred thousand dollars to attend a school such as UVa OOS. It is an American college football rivalry game played annually by the Virginia Cavaliers football team of the University of Virginia and the North Carolina Tar Heels football team of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Kevin Jeffay, Chair . You’ll pay almost 1/3 less for a house in Charlottesville and have better job prospects due to growth. What’s the benefit to each location and the MBA programs offered? [Quote] But that's besides the point). amortized from federal overhead payments. Recently, our School v. School series compared Duke Fuqua to UVA Darden—you can find the comparison here. Prerequisites and MCATs — admit. Football and basketball are supported strongly, and UVA's close proximity to DC makes it an opportunistic location for internships in that area. Is is true that MCS is more "professional" in the sense that it doesn't prepare students for a PhD but it is for who wants to directly work after graduating? Both are solid in the other areas as well though. His reply: "I've always loved the people and atmosphere at the University of Virginia. I have never visited; I have no idea if this is true.

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Since on paper they're EXTREMELY similar, you know what that means?! However, as a computer science major it is difficult to get out of class tutoring. uva and davis actually have pretty consistent records of placing theorists, but it's true that past success doesn't guarantee anything and that there are no guarantees if you study theory. We of a certain age all know in the long run college is of fleeting importance but if you are about to drop 200 large on a school you should at least know what's under the hood--sometimes it's a V-12 and sometimes it's just a 4 banger.

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UVa has planned on spending BILLIONS to correct some of these problems--if it were not a real problem to the people who know the place best do you think they would be making such a huge commitment to improvement in that area??

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I don't remember that same vibe last fall when visiting UVA. Darden School of Business – University of Virginia, Darla Moore School of Business – University of South Carolina, Fuqua School of Business – Duke University, Kenan-Flagler Business School – University of North Carolina, McColl School of Business – Queens University of Charlotte, Pamplin College of Business – Virginia Tech, Poole College of Management – NC State University, Top Online MBA Programs That Don't Require the GMAT or GRE, Online MBA Programs That Don't Require Work Experience, Research Triangle MBA Programs that Don’t Require the GMAT or GRE, Research Triangle MBA Programs that Don’t Require Work Experience, Bloomberg Businessweek Best Business Schools Ranking, Forbes Best Business School Ranking (United States), U.S. News & World Report Best Business Schools Rankings, A Guide to MBA Programs with GMAT Waivers, Top Online MBA's That Don't Require the GMAT, MBA Programs That Don’t Require the GMAT or GRE, MBA Programs That Don’t Require Work Experience. favor of humanities rather than science and engineering. I'm just looking out for people to get what they pay for while in college. Not to mention that it's one of the best schools in the country. Compare University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill vs. University of Virginia at U.S. News to view school data side by side. The Jefferson scholarship at UVA was patterned after the Morehead at UNC which preceded it by a number of years. investments to become a respectable research university. It has very few really highly ranked departments.

. UVA is probably ever-so-slightly more renowned academically, USNWR Now UVA has to play catchup, Howimportant is the decision? But as someone who obviously has significant experience with education in America, both as a politician and current professor, and who is around several highly educated people on a daily basis, I'd say he's a pretty decent authority on the topic.

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And eadad, for the record I don't think he's getting that from USNWR, however many "poor" rankings you want to throw out there...UVA is a great school. i loved UVA as a school, but charlottesville just seemed kinda depressing and not exactly an ideal college town like chapel hill.

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Some of the people who are touting UVA's academics haven't attended either school and are relying, I am guessing, on USNWR data which as we all know is seriously flawed, or other anecdotal information.

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Good to see you on the UNC threads.

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I seriously considered UNC for both grad school many years ago and lately for retirement location. favorably with other institutions deemed to be peers. Since I never actually attended UNC I tend not to get on this forum very often.

. advantage of funding opportunities at NSF, NIH, DOE, NASA and other UVA is now the little brother to UNC apparently, something that I guess changed in the last 8 months. There’s also an emphasis on teaching team effectiveness with multiple team experiences and opportunities for giving and receiving feedback. Ketan Mayer-Patel, Director of Undergraduate Studies. Not for this comparison, but just so I can check out how various departments at my own school match up). I am absolutely in love with Chapel Hill, and Raleigh/Durham are close by (whereas Charlottesville is about an hour away from Richmond). Computer Science is a joint degree programme of the University of Amsterdam and Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam. About 94 percent of the MBA Class of 2018 received job offers within three months of graduation at both schools.

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I have to say I side with Barrons here.

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Your comment directly knocked its academic reputation, by claiming those who "tout" its academic reputation must be pulling that opinion from the unjustifiable USNWR rankings (which I myself have an issue with; I'd rank UVA in the top-20, and Berkeley in the top-15. Qualified UNC Greensboro undergraduate students who are pursuing the Bachelor of Science (B.S.) Chapel Hill, home to UNC Kenan-Flagler, and Charlottesville, home to UVA Darden, are both great places to live. However, UVA Darden graduates can expect to earn slightly higher salaries with an overall compensation of around $162,000 for the first year compared to just $145,000 for graduates of Kenan-Flagler. kmp@cs.unc.edu. There’s quite a bit of overlap between the programs with corporate finance, consulting, marketing, analytics, entrepreneurship, and sustainable business being offered by both. The job market demand for UVA Darden and UNC Kenan-Flagler students is strong. comparable size to UVA.

. I'm guessing OOS admission then didn't virtually require a 1400 M/V SAT and 4.3 GPA, assuming UVA was like every other university in the country. The Department of Computer Science Brooks Computer Science Building 201 S. Columbia St. UNC-Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175 Phone: (919) 590-6000 Fax: (919) 590-6105 Email: info (at) cs.unc… UVA vs UNC : Post-Graduation Employment. • In UVA vs. UNC games since 1940, the winning team has out-rushed the loser 58 of 76 times, with one game featuring the same yardage for both. I just think it's unfair to "help" a prospective student by bombarding them with not only statistics, but now PDF reports (God help us) of information conveying only very slight differences between universities. Ketan Mayer-Patel, Director of Undergraduate Studies. Both are somewhat comparable in the rankings for U.S. programs, they cost relatively the same every year, and graduates from either school will earn a competitive salary—just a little more for Darden graduates. However, UVA Darden graduates can expect to earn slightly higher salaries with an overall compensation of around $162,000 for the first year compared to … TV Spot with Faculty Computer Science Education, Computer Game Design, Software Engineering . Visit Program Website.

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I'd been off CC for about 8 months (god that sounds like a drug lol), and when I got back on I actually realized that most people on here disgust me. There seemed to be less "old money," and students seemed more open to different perspectives. They see your grades, your ECs and your degree. While UVA is ranked number 24 by U.S. News & UVA Darden offers higher post-grad salary expectations and a lower cost of living during enrollment. UVA’s Board of Visitors and UVA Darden offers curriculum in a range of business management areas, including supply chain management, global business, and business development and growth. HELP please UNC vs UVa — College Confidential .

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Any school who boasts these types of alumni lists are worthy of praise, not disrespect. the median level of those top 20 or so departments in the country of I actually turned down undergrad admission there almost forty years ago when an OOS admit was considerably harder than it is now. It is a great school academically, though I'd say UVA has the edge more in the social sciences/humanities, while UNC is a pretty renowned bio/pre-med school. Introduction. program and so modestly as a research university. • … The Department of Computer Science offers instruction and …

In terms of reputation alone, I've always gotten the vibe that UVA and UNC are on the same par academically. UVa itself has realized it has serious shortcomings in the sciences, engineering, and math, [/Quote] It was founded in 1964 by Dr. Frederick P. Brooks Jr. There are also private scholarships available from outside organizations such as the Noble Argus Foundation. actually decreased in faculty size since 1990. This enabled growth in faculty size in leading I loved Charlottesville, though, and of course the campus is gorgeous. You are the guy who'll decide where to go.” :)

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My daughter considered both UNC and UVA and concurred with skateboarder. You're on your own. Some influential rankings, such as U.S. News & World Report, enter a sort of “collective consciousness” in admissions. Both cities are rich in culture and attractions. Hi everyone! when federal research awards increased. I actually turned down undergrad admission there almost forty years ago when an OOS admit was considerably harder than it is now. "

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"Recovering from Stagnation: Unless the science departments of CLAS achieve But when we start looking at specific details, more and more differences between the two business schools come to light. You might want to look up some rankings to confirm this, but I think UVA normally comes out on top of those three. UNC vs UVA « 1 2 » Go. There are both premier and full-tuition fellowships covering the tuition cost and potentially even an annual stipend of $5,000. Attending either school is nothing to be ashamed of and can open many doors.

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I know the history and pedigree of the two schools very well. I know that I love the vibe of the student body, the athletics, and the location of Carolina, but I don't want to regret missing out on the preferential treatment I would receive as an Echols Scholar at UVA...

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I hope some of that helped; I'm trying to make this decision too, but it's a little more difficult to see both sides clearly when you have a Carolina alumnus as a parent...

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UNC is wonderful, UVA is more so....but you cannot go wrong with either one....:)

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thanks, kelps for the breakdown that was very helpful. The South's Oldest Rivalry is the name given to the North Carolina–Virginia football rivalry. university and improving the external perception of that quality. An important goal is to increase the size of these departments to Highly doubt that. Most leading universities took And I wonder if I would feel more at home in UVA's more diverse student body Gah! Department of Computer Science. I was waitlisted at UNC and removed my name, since I'd already been admitted to schools "higher" on my list, but I hope to apply there again for grad school, and maintain high respect for the students, faculty and tradition that makes Carolina great.

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You can't go wrong. [/Quote] College Bound and Determined. Incidentally I was turned down at UNC; there were no wait lists then. Faculty expertise encompasses areas of traditional computer science as well as cutting edge efforts in visualization/visual analytics, robotics, networking, video and image processing, cloud and high-performance Maybe if they are considering being a science or engineering major they would care to know something REAL about the place and not based on the uninformed opinions of people like yourself or the vast majority of fellow high schoolers, "counselors", or even US News. … A great college environment although I like C'Ville too. UVA placed #28 and #25, respectively. (See Declaring a Major or Minor in the section be And it feeds on itself. a major initiative (described elsewhere) of recruiting research competent Hoping they admit me again for grad school!

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UNC is another incredible school, different, but in many ways, similar to UVA. Your email address will not be published. You can steer yourself in any direction you choose.

As a registrant, you will also gain access to resources, advice and exclusive offers as you research and pursue your graduate business school options. Some of the people who are touting UVA's academics haven't attended either school and are relying, I am guessing, on USNWR data which as we all know is seriously flawed, or other anecdotal information. We are persuaded that in all cases, there are good strategic arguments Uva (58) Unc Chapel Hill (13) Further Research. However, UNC Kenan-Flagler also offers an Online MBA option (the top ranked in the country, according to U.S. News). Notify me of follow-up comments by email. the single most important step that can be taken to improve the research standing of UNC has far more. Should you go to school in the Research Triangle or Virginia? Comparing UVA Darden and UNC Kenan-Flagler in the rankings gives Darden a decided edge. All these people trashing on UVA for personal reasons...c'mon!

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That is all I have to say. This makes UVA a great place for students to obtain the computer science degree. UVA's CLAS science departments.

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Issue: Departments such as Physics, Math, and Biology have remained Economics 28, 27 Each are great college towns with fantastic weather, lots of things to do, and beautiful locations. Learn how your comment data is processed. Making someone whip out stats to prove UNC's worth over UVA isn't "helping," eadad, it's going overboard. UNC definitely has the edge for patient population diversity, but UVA residents seem happier and had an obviously positive relationship with the PD. The people were very friendly though, and if you're Christian, there was certainly no absence of churches!

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You've been admitted to two fine universities. They're both great schools. Because I see the two schools as academic equals my comments were aimed at describing the social and political climate which is what happens after classes end and is ultimately what shapes an undergrad experience. Your email address will not be published. As a student at UCLA, outsiders are constantly comparing us to the "more worthy" Berkeley. Some prefer UVA, some prefer UNC; almost all are happy with their decisions and go on to lead great lives, with much reverence and loyalty toward their respective alma maters. One area I really find lacking is with advisors. And, believe it or not, job interviewers are NOT going to look at meeting minutes from UVA to see how many millions of dollars the bio department needs to raise to build a new facility so they can equal UNC. Related Question Categories. No one can knock the atmosphere at UVA. But, Kenan-Flagler offers more MBA program options, including the top-ranked Online MBA in the U.S. We recommend carefully reviewing each school to find out how the program fits your post-graduation career goals and then making a decision from there. kmp@cs.unc.edu. • In UVA vs. UNC games since 1940, the winning team has out-rushed the loser 58 of 76 times, with one game featuring the same yardage for both. But as we have recently seen--even grads of the best colleges can screw-up in monumental ways. Laboratories were built with borrowed funds and And you know what you know. In both categories, growth in research-active faculty is being All I am saying is that among academics, which is who really counts, UNC and UVA are considered peer schools and in many departments UNC is in fact the more highly regarded. If I had an axe to grind, logically it should be against UNC. The Computer Science minor requires credit for six CS courses as described below. The Department of Computer Science at UNC-Chapel Hill was one of the first in the United States to be established as an independent computer science department. There are also women, minority, LGTBQ, military, international, and U.S. regional scholarships. Computer science animates our world, driving knowledge creation and innovation that touches every aspect of our lives, from communications devices to the latest medical technology. Arts and Sciences (CLAS), the School of Medicine (SOM), and the School of However, there are some differences. Narrow your search using our on-page tools here. UVA is generally more well-known academically on the west coast. Unless I am mistaken barrons has been intimately involved in collegiate academics for many years.

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Oh and by the way, John Edwards taught and may still teach at UNC.

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This is supposed to be a forum to help people make difficult decisions. But we are IS so it's a good deal. Darden follows the four-step Case Method learning process, dividing classes into small teams and encouraging lively discussions. UVA’s Department of Computer Science includes 680 undergraduates and 28 faculty members. Academics will not be what sets one of them apart from the other. ?

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'To achieve this goal UVA needs to face the fact that, despite its stellar national rankings TV Spot with Students](,

UNC seemed more "southern" to me, in that the surrounding areas are all farm land; they don't call it Tobacco Road for a nothing! Starting at orientation, students are assigned a study team whom they work with closely throughout the core curriculum. of federal research expenditures4, and does not rank in the top 100 on the Academic previously had. A student could do extremely well at either university. ranks only number 47 for FY 2005 in the key research indicator, namely the NSF ranking I believe that UVA's computer science department is the strongest out of the three of those, from what I've read. In the Financial Times, Bloomberg Businessweek, and The Economist Darden is at least 15 ranks higher. The job market demand for UVA Darden and UNC Kenan-Flagler students is strong. Both UVA Darden and UNC Kenan-Flagler offer a variety of curricula concentrations so that MBA students can tailor their education to their chosen career or industry. 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